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take it away, guys. >> thanks so much, john. see you in a few minutes. >>> it is almost the top of the hour. you know what that means on "new day." time for the top news. >>> a teenager is dead through no fault of his own. >> judgment day for george zimmerman. the prosecution has spoken. did they make their case? now the defense gets their turn. how will they respond? the jury gets the case, today. >>> bracing for the verdict. a town and country on edge. what happens after the verdict is read? police and community leaders are calling for peace. we follow a police chief as he goes door-to-door. >> brace yourself for pain at the pump. it's going to get more expensive. how much higher will it go? >> your "new day" starts right now. >> happy friday, everybody. good morning. welcome to "new day." >> we are joined my michaela. jo coming up, up and down the communities places are submerged. this is the view inside a car as it gets sucked away by a mud slide. we'll have the latest on the cities trying to dry out. >> a "new day" exclusiv
take it away, guys. >> thanks so much, john. see you in a few minutes. >>> it is almost the top of the hour. you know what that means on "new day." time for the top news. >>> a teenager is dead through no fault of his own. >> judgment day for george zimmerman. the prosecution has spoken. did they make their case? now the defense gets their turn. how will they respond? the jury gets the case, today. >>> bracing for the verdict. a town and country...
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they love these courtroom demonstrations and it was powerful, especially with john guy using it. a lot of the courtroom watchers are calling him prosecutor mcdreamy. half of the jury stood up and looked over the well to sew what he was doing. i think it went over extremely well. this witness was not a good witness for the defense. i'm not quite sure why they called him. they didn't really need to call this sort of pseudo use of force expert. and the prosecution did a really good job of taking what was a defense witness and then turning him into a prosecution witness by doing this in-courtroom demonstration. it was pretty effective. >> danny, do you think it was effective for the prosecution? >> you have to balance the risk and reward of calling every witness. he was testifying what police officers call continue continuance of force. so you have to ask what was the potential benefit? the down side is the prosecution had the opportunity to cross examine this expert and inquire about things that may not have been appropriate uses of force. so there is a risk and reward. i can stay c
they love these courtroom demonstrations and it was powerful, especially with john guy using it. a lot of the courtroom watchers are calling him prosecutor mcdreamy. half of the jury stood up and looked over the well to sew what he was doing. i think it went over extremely well. this witness was not a good witness for the defense. i'm not quite sure why they called him. they didn't really need to call this sort of pseudo use of force expert. and the prosecution did a really good job of taking...
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john guy got back up, was very powerful but in a very different way. he appealed to the emotional jurors, the ones who are sitting there who cannot divorce themselves from the fact that they're mothers and that there's a dead -- and we heard some of those jurors were crying. they were emotionally moved. but i think it's a tie when you look at the presentation because o'mara, he had to speak for three straight hours and you really did pay attention for three straight hours, weaving in the different media items that he used, sometimes a chart, sometimes a power point, sometimes a cardboard cut-out. he held their attention but he was more arguing to the intellectual aspects of what these jurors need to do. >> and, paul callan, the question is, you know, it was compelling as a speaker and he had all of his props and he was using his hands, he was using the cardboard, i guess the question is did he string it together in an effective way that makes the case or do sometimes some of the theatrics become distracting? >> i kind of think of them as a skilled carp
john guy got back up, was very powerful but in a very different way. he appealed to the emotional jurors, the ones who are sitting there who cannot divorce themselves from the fact that they're mothers and that there's a dead -- and we heard some of those jurors were crying. they were emotionally moved. but i think it's a tie when you look at the presentation because o'mara, he had to speak for three straight hours and you really did pay attention for three straight hours, weaving in the...
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. >> reporter: during the prosecution's cross-examination of john root, john guy brought in a foam dummy straddling it showing that george zimmerman was inconsistent about his statement of trayvon martin going for his gun and defense attorney mark o'mara decided he would borrow the mannequin for his own demonstration. >> yes, sir. >> by the way, did you have the defendant do this? >> no, sir. >> when you talked to him, you didn't have him do this? >> no, sir. >> if this person, this mannequin, were carrying a firearm on their waist, where would the gun be right now in relation to me? >> would be at your left inner thigh. >> right here. right? >> yes. if he was right-handed it would be at your left inner thigh, yes, sir. >> right. underneath my leg? >> yes. >> what injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent with, someone doing this on cement? >> i don't think so. >> how about this? how about somebody resisting the attempt, the injuries, the two lacerations, could that have come from cement if somebody was resisting pushing me down like? >> i believe so. >> whose theory will t
. >> reporter: during the prosecution's cross-examination of john root, john guy brought in a foam dummy straddling it showing that george zimmerman was inconsistent about his statement of trayvon martin going for his gun and defense attorney mark o'mara decided he would borrow the mannequin for his own demonstration. >> yes, sir. >> by the way, did you have the defendant do this? >> no, sir. >> when you talked to him, you didn't have him do this? >> no, sir....
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there came a point where prosecutor john guy walked over to defense attorney don west to shake his hand. west refused to shake his hand. you remember west saying that he thought the prosecution of this case was disgraceful. there were several, sunny, you remember, discovery violations, possible violations that, you know, the judge will deal with later, after the verdict, now that we are, you know, past the verdict. but you could tell that there was definitely an animosity between the two. >> and sunny, we've got many questions, but just on that point. i mean, we've talked about how there is an adversarial relationship, obviously, between the defense and the prosecution, but some believe they had kind of gone beyond that between these two sides, that there was real animosity towards the end. for our viewers who don't get to sit in courtrooms all the time, is that unusual that don west refused to shake his hand? >> it is unusual. i mean, certainly, most attorneys that are trial lawyers, especially criminal trial lawyers, we know that it's an adversarial process because you're on both side
there came a point where prosecutor john guy walked over to defense attorney don west to shake his hand. west refused to shake his hand. you remember west saying that he thought the prosecution of this case was disgraceful. there were several, sunny, you remember, discovery violations, possible violations that, you know, the judge will deal with later, after the verdict, now that we are, you know, past the verdict. but you could tell that there was definitely an animosity between the two....
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we saw prosecutor john guy walk over to don west to try to shake his hand. don west refused to do so. and the defense team, they say it was sort of a david and goliath situation, candy. but in the end they say that they won. >> george howell. thank you so much. we will talk to you later in the day. thank you all for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the george zimmerman verdict. kate bolduan and chris cuomo will return at 11:00 eastern. i'll be back at noon. i'll be back at noon. "fareed zakaria gps" is next. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we have a great show for you today, beginning with an exclusive interview with the new secretary of the treasury of the united states, jacob lew. i'll ask him about the american recovery, about cyber attacks from china, edward snowden's revelations, the irs scandals, lots more. >>> also, is political islam dead in the
we saw prosecutor john guy walk over to don west to try to shake his hand. don west refused to do so. and the defense team, they say it was sort of a david and goliath situation, candy. but in the end they say that they won. >> george howell. thank you so much. we will talk to you later in the day. thank you all for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the george zimmerman verdict. kate bolduan and chris cuomo...
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prosecutors john guy argued it would be difficult for zimmerman to shoot at a 90-degree angle had trayvon martin been on top as presented by the defense. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin had been backing up and the defendant raised his gun and shot at 09 degrees. >> reporter: then defense mark o'mara grabbed the dummy. >> were they inconsistent with someone doing this? >> reporter: on the final day of testimony, robert zimmerman returned to the stand to address the screams heard on the 911 tape. >> absolutely it's my son, george. >> is that an opinion that you still have through today? >> t >> surely. >> reporter: judge debra nelson will decide whether or not to grant the prosecution's request to apply lesser charges of manslaughter and aggravated assault. >> self-defense is self-defense to everything. there shouldn't be a second-degree murder charge and shouldn't be any lessers. >> reporter: so we know that jurors will be back here in the courtroom today at 1:00 p.m.. prosecutors will make their closing arguments and we expect they should take about two hours, t
prosecutors john guy argued it would be difficult for zimmerman to shoot at a 90-degree angle had trayvon martin been on top as presented by the defense. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin had been backing up and the defendant raised his gun and shot at 09 degrees. >> reporter: then defense mark o'mara grabbed the dummy. >> were they inconsistent with someone doing this? >> reporter: on the final day of testimony, robert zimmerman returned to the...
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. >> it's been unbearable with just john here. >>> got a lot of news four this morning, just as you guys following on what we know about flight 214, startling revelations about the pilot. the struggler's experience and we have a "new day" exclusive. yesterday, we heard from three sung siblings remember how eloquent they were surviving the crash. today, we them with their father who got out of the hospital. the story gets even more amazing. >> mother still in the hospital. we're going to talk to them about this experience through this crazy ordeal. >>> also, another "new day" exclusive that we have today. we sat down with amanda berry's grandmother. you're seeing amanda berry right there. we're talking to her grandmother as she watched this new video released of her brave granddaughter thanking supporters for the very first time. we're seeing amanda berry and the two other women who were kidnapped and kept in that house in cleveland for more than a decade. and some circumstances, we're going to hear from the grandmother and talk more about how fabulous they looked when we saw them in this
. >> it's been unbearable with just john here. >>> got a lot of news four this morning, just as you guys following on what we know about flight 214, startling revelations about the pilot. the struggler's experience and we have a "new day" exclusive. yesterday, we heard from three sung siblings remember how eloquent they were surviving the crash. today, we them with their father who got out of the hospital. the story gets even more amazing. >> mother still in the...
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prosecuting attorney john guy argued that it could have been difficult for zimmerman to shoot at a 90 degree angle had trayvon martin been on top. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin was backing up and the defendant raised his gun and shot at 90 degrees? >> reporter: then defense attorney mark o'mara grabbed the dummy to support his argument. >> the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back on his head consistent with someone doing this? >> reporter: and on the final day of testimony, george zimmerman's father, robert zimmerman returned to the stand to address the screams heard on the 911 tape. >> absolutely, it's my son, george. >> is that an opinion that you still have through today? >> certainly. >> reporter: in another important ruling, judge debra nelson will decide whether or not to grant the prosecution's request to apply lesser charges of manslaughter and aggravated assault. >> self-defense is self-defense to everything. there shouldn't be a second degree murder charge and shouldn't be any lessers. >> so, we are getting, wolf, to the beginning of the end of this
prosecuting attorney john guy argued that it could have been difficult for zimmerman to shoot at a 90 degree angle had trayvon martin been on top. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin was backing up and the defendant raised his gun and shot at 90 degrees? >> reporter: then defense attorney mark o'mara grabbed the dummy to support his argument. >> the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back on his head consistent with someone doing this? >> reporter: and on...
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we heard from prosecutor john guy the other day. he made an emotional appeal to these jurors, telling them to look into the heart. look into the heart of george zimmerman. look into the heart of trayvon martin. but specifically ask whether george zimmerman wanted to shoot or just didn't want to shoot, if it was an accident. he suggested that it was. and we also heard from mark o'mara. mark o'mara did sort of a legal lesson, if you will. explaining to jurors, first of all, what it takes to charge a person for a crime. basically to find a person guilty or not guilty. went through great explanation with that. and then he showed several charts. and he showed that video reenactment of the scene from the account of george zimmerman. and also explain to the jurors that they have to decide the case based on facts, not on circumstantial evidence. it will be interesting to see when this happens or what happens. we're on verdict watch. could come down today. could come down tomorrow possibly. but we're as waiting to see what happens monday. >>
we heard from prosecutor john guy the other day. he made an emotional appeal to these jurors, telling them to look into the heart. look into the heart of george zimmerman. look into the heart of trayvon martin. but specifically ask whether george zimmerman wanted to shoot or just didn't want to shoot, if it was an accident. he suggested that it was. and we also heard from mark o'mara. mark o'mara did sort of a legal lesson, if you will. explaining to jurors, first of all, what it takes to...
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prosecutor john guy's opening statement. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> [ bleep ] punks. these [ bleep ]. they always get away. those were the words in that grown man's mouth as he followed in the dark a 17-year-old boy who he didn't know. >> reporter: cnn legal analyst sunny hostin has been in court every day. >> the inference is, yeah, these are shocking, ugly, hateful words. and that wasn't lost upon the jury. i looked at them very, very closely. and some of them did seem shocked and offended almost by the words. >> reporter: at other times the jury seemed to be captivated by the defense, especially when defense attorneys pulled out a dummy in court to help illustrate the confrontation. >> i was very impressed when they all stood up to get a bird's eye view of when the actors, the lawyers were atop the dummies and trying to replicate, reproduce what was going on between trayvon martin and george zimmerman. i think that was very telling. it showed how into this they were, like they were watching a dennis match. >> reporter: jurors were especially engaged when the mother
prosecutor john guy's opening statement. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> [ bleep ] punks. these [ bleep ]. they always get away. those were the words in that grown man's mouth as he followed in the dark a 17-year-old boy who he didn't know. >> reporter: cnn legal analyst sunny hostin has been in court every day. >> the inference is, yeah, these are shocking, ugly, hateful words. and that wasn't lost upon the jury. i looked at them very, very closely. and some...
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into power. >> john, congress, we've been harping on this, college loans, they campaigned on it, said it was their priority, then they forgot that, let the rates double. now they say they'll try to compromise. where are we? >> right now we're in limbo land. i'm a pessimist often on these things in washington. it's not bad we got to limbo land because we were in political land. the senate had the vote for a temporary action and now we have to negotiate. so there's a new proposal being shaped in the senate. if the senate can pass that they need negotiate with the house. both sides insist there's an urgency to get this done and this is this friday. let's have this conversation next friday and see if they can work it out. they've gotten over the political hump so we'll talk about it. >> jay-z telling a radio station he "of course" gets text messages from the president. does that mean you're getting text messages from the president, too? that's quite a good access. >> let me text beyonce to get the truth from this one. if he is texting the president he's not supposed to talk about it, that
into power. >> john, congress, we've been harping on this, college loans, they campaigned on it, said it was their priority, then they forgot that, let the rates double. now they say they'll try to compromise. where are we? >> right now we're in limbo land. i'm a pessimist often on these things in washington. it's not bad we got to limbo land because we were in political land. the senate had the vote for a temporary action and now we have to negotiate. so there's a new proposal...
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. >> reporter: an appeal from prosecutor john guy, for the six jurors, five of them mothers, to think with their hearts. >> who is responsible for the state, not being able to ask trayvon martin to come forward. and put my hand on his shoulder. i wish i could do that. >> reporter: insisting that zimmerman's claim of self-defense is a lie. and saying his responsibility began when he followed trayvon martin. >> this case is not about standing your ground. it's about staying in your car. >> reporter: zimmerman's lead defense attorney, mark o'mara, also employed theater. even halling out this block of cement, saying that he had to shoot in self-defense, to keep his head from being beat into the sidewalk. >> that is not an unarmed teenager. >> reporter: tension overnight mounting with the jury recessing until morning, delaying the verdict. at times, it seemed almost too much for trayvon martin's parents, now determined to see it through. >> they started this journey over 17 months ago. just asking for simple justice so his death won't be in vain. >> reporter: now, everyone here is waiting
. >> reporter: an appeal from prosecutor john guy, for the six jurors, five of them mothers, to think with their hearts. >> who is responsible for the state, not being able to ask trayvon martin to come forward. and put my hand on his shoulder. i wish i could do that. >> reporter: insisting that zimmerman's claim of self-defense is a lie. and saying his responsibility began when he followed trayvon martin. >> this case is not about standing your ground. it's about...
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i said that to john guy. bernie said it doesn't say anything, it just says he's had a good night's sleep and they kind of laugh. and then i looked at him. quite honestly, i know this is serious but how do you feel about you being a big serious prosecutor and being called mcdreamy and the whole elevator erupts including him and he turns bright red and says that's an awkward question. and then they said how does your wife feel about it? he said have a great day but that's the most interesting question i have gotten throughout the process. the defense seems to be a little more serious than the prosecution at least -- obviously the burden is on the prosecution but they seem to be a little more light hearted. and the interesting thing is when i said that george zimmerman walked over to the window with his family, if you look up at the top of this building, george zimmerman at times is watching, he's looking out onto the courtyard and looking at all the media. he's looking at the handful of protesters who have walk
i said that to john guy. bernie said it doesn't say anything, it just says he's had a good night's sleep and they kind of laugh. and then i looked at him. quite honestly, i know this is serious but how do you feel about you being a big serious prosecutor and being called mcdreamy and the whole elevator erupts including him and he turns bright red and says that's an awkward question. and then they said how does your wife feel about it? he said have a great day but that's the most interesting...
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last night we saw something when prosecutor john guy walked over to defense attorney don west to try to shake his hand. west refused to shake his hand. and i did ask don west about what it was like to work in that courtroom with that judge. you'll remember, there was a lot of back and forth. you saw some heated moments. take a listen to what he had to say. >> since testifying in that pretrial hearing about discovery evidence, we understand that he was terminated. can you talk to us about why he was terminated from your office? >> i believe that we have released a letter that details why he was terminated. and again, we want to keep the focus on what we promised 15 months ago, which was to get all of the facts of this case in front of a jury or in front of a judge if it had been a stand your ground hearing. and i believe that's what we've done. >> as far as the relationship with the judge, the back and forth, can you talk to us just a bit about that? do you feel that you were getting fair treatment? >> i'd like to keep my bar license for a couple more years. and the second part of the
last night we saw something when prosecutor john guy walked over to defense attorney don west to try to shake his hand. west refused to shake his hand. and i did ask don west about what it was like to work in that courtroom with that judge. you'll remember, there was a lot of back and forth. you saw some heated moments. take a listen to what he had to say. >> since testifying in that pretrial hearing about discovery evidence, we understand that he was terminated. can you talk to us about...
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this is what john guy said during his rebuttal yesterday. take a listen. >> this case is not about race. it is about right and wrong. it is that simple. let me suggest to you how you know that for sure. ask yourself all things being equal, if the roles were reversed, and it was 28-year-old george zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie onto protect himself from the rain, walking through that neighborhood, and a 17-year-old driving around in a car who called the police, who had hate in their heart, hate in their mouth, hate in their actions, and if it was trayvon martin who had shot and killed george zimmerman, what would your verdict be? that's how you know it is not about race. >> besides race, what else was this case about? >> well, i can say quickly it is not either/or. it is not about race, it is not right and wrong. this is about the way that race can influence the way that we understand right and wrong. in addition to this, this is also about our gun laws, the fact that mr. zimmerman was able to be armed that night and this pr
this is what john guy said during his rebuttal yesterday. take a listen. >> this case is not about race. it is about right and wrong. it is that simple. let me suggest to you how you know that for sure. ask yourself all things being equal, if the roles were reversed, and it was 28-year-old george zimmerman walking home in the rain with a hoodie onto protect himself from the rain, walking through that neighborhood, and a 17-year-old driving around in a car who called the police, who had...
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prosecutor john guy climbing atop a full mannequin, while cross-examining law enforcement trainer. >> were you aware that the defendant described to his best friend, that when the defendant slid down, that trayvon martin was up around his armpits. >> reporter: jurors, and even defense attorneys, craning their necks. some even standing up to see the demonstration. >> where would the gun be now? >> now, the gun would be behind your left leg. >> reporter: defense attorney mark o'mara even asked to borrow the dummy on redirect. >> were the injuries consistent with somebody doing this? >> i don't think so. >> how about this? how about somebody resisting the attempt? >> reporter: now, by tomorrow night, george zimmerman could know whether he faces life in prison or freedom. we're told he's preparing for both, spending a lot of time with his family. now, even if he's convicted on a lesser charge, like aggravated assault, we're told that he will be escorted directly from that courthouse to the jail. amy? >> matt gutman, thanks so much. >>> let's bring in abc's chief legal affairs anchor, dan
prosecutor john guy climbing atop a full mannequin, while cross-examining law enforcement trainer. >> were you aware that the defendant described to his best friend, that when the defendant slid down, that trayvon martin was up around his armpits. >> reporter: jurors, and even defense attorneys, craning their necks. some even standing up to see the demonstration. >> where would the gun be now? >> now, the gun would be behind your left leg. >> reporter: defense...
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. >>> on "cbs this morning" tomorrow morning, john miller looks at the threat from within. we'll have that stir for you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." [ male announcer ] this is bob a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin xarelto® is proven effective to reduce the risk of an afib-related stroke. there is limited data on how these drugs compare when warfarin is well managed. no routine blood monitoring means bob can spend his extra time however he likes. new zealand! xarelto® is just on
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guys? >> natalie, thank you very much. i think i have my winner so far. john, pan down here. that young lady with the orange bandanna in front, white shirt. 10:00 wednesday night got here. >> a good seat. >> from long island. not bad. 10:00. >> let us go down to mike bettes in for al with a check of the weather. hey, mike. >> good morning. so popular. what do you want toll hear ed sheeran sing? >> "kiss me." >> "give me me love." >> hopeful he'll take the stage shortly and you're going to rock out to him. let's rock out to the forecast and a big, old forecast to saginaw, michigan. watching on nbc 25. sunny and mild. 83 degrees your temperature today. looking good in the middle of the country. eastern half of the country, showers and storms. that is a look at the we we are lating for -- waiting for low clouds to break around san francisco. sunshine in the south bay now in san jose, low clouds will linger along the coastline, thanks to an onauthor shoer breeze. see temperatures from san francisco to oakland, staying in the 60s, close to 70 in oakland, closer to 80 in san jose,
guys? >> natalie, thank you very much. i think i have my winner so far. john, pan down here. that young lady with the orange bandanna in front, white shirt. 10:00 wednesday night got here. >> a good seat. >> from long island. not bad. 10:00. >> let us go down to mike bettes in for al with a check of the weather. hey, mike. >> good morning. so popular. what do you want toll hear ed sheeran sing? >> "kiss me." >> "give me me love."...
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all veterans have been taught to be responsible for the guy to your left and the guy to your right. other veterans haven't had it as easy as i have. i sat down with my battle buddy, john, and we decided to level the playing field. i'm dale beatty, and it's now my mission to help other veterans get the support and the homes that they deserve from their communities. there's thousands of veterans right here in our midst. people don't realize the need that's out there. homes can help any service-connected disabled veteran regardless of their age or war. >> this is the young man why we're all here today. >> it's just getting the community engaged, to get a ramp built or a foreclosed home remodeled or an entire house built from the ground up. >> narrow doorways that i couldn't get through. i had to crawl in on my hands and knees. to have them build a whole new bathroom was unbelievable. >> we want to make their life easier, safer, just better, and their emotions are being rehabbed as well. regardless of when you serve, we're all the same. they just need to know that somebody does care abo
all veterans have been taught to be responsible for the guy to your left and the guy to your right. other veterans haven't had it as easy as i have. i sat down with my battle buddy, john, and we decided to level the playing field. i'm dale beatty, and it's now my mission to help other veterans get the support and the homes that they deserve from their communities. there's thousands of veterans right here in our midst. people don't realize the need that's out there. homes can help any...
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at the same time also on the same separately, this witness john goode said, you know, i saw this guy on top of this guy. this guy being zimmerman on top of this guy. throwing blows down. and you know, the guy on the bottom was yelling for help. >> bill: the guy on the bottom being zimmerman. >> so while the logic of listening to the call is certainly relevant, as your caller pointed out there is other testimony out there. other evidence out there that would suggest that zimmerman may be calling out. it doesn't necessarily mean that it happened, of course. that zimmerman is accurate and it certainly doesn't mean that zimmerman's calling shouts for help allegedly are the same shouts you heard on 911 the call. i will say this, zimmerman heard the 911 tape. police played it for him. he said that doesn't even sound like me. zimmerman said that. zimmerman said that the screams for help on the call were not him. >> bill: can't they get him in a studio right now and just have him scream and scream and compare that to the voice on the tape? >> well, that is one of the ways they do it, yes. bu
at the same time also on the same separately, this witness john goode said, you know, i saw this guy on top of this guy. this guy being zimmerman on top of this guy. throwing blows down. and you know, the guy on the bottom was yelling for help. >> bill: the guy on the bottom being zimmerman. >> so while the logic of listening to the call is certainly relevant, as your caller pointed out there is other testimony out there. other evidence out there that would suggest that zimmerman...